What is it with windows? When I tell it to kill a program, it should do what it says! Fine, bring up all the dialogs warning be that I might damage my data that you want, but when I say End Process it should end the process! When I kill -9 something on UNIX /Linux, it dies and stays dead. This problem seems to be indicitive of windows as a whole. Time and again it tries to do much for you. I wouldn’t mind if Windows was the Nanny State of operating systems, if it worked! If you are going to take control out of the users hands you’d better know what you are doing. Linux doesn’t try to do too much itself, but at least it works goddamit!